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“This is a revolution,” Musk said during the interview. “And I think it might be the biggest revolution in government since the original revolution. But at the end of the day, America is going to be in much better shape. America will be solvent. The critical programs that people depend upon will work, and it’s going to be a fantastic future. But are we going to get a lot of complaints along the way? Absolutely.”
And Musk isn’t shy about calling out the swamp creatures. Drawing from his PayPal days, he said: “You know, one of the things I learned at PayPal was, you know who complains the loudest and with the most amount of fake righteous indignation? The fraudsters. It’s a tell. There are some NGOs that are crazy, like the $2 billion to Stacey Abrams’s NGO that basically didn’t exist and suddenly gets $2 billion awarded from the federal government. She says, why? And there are many such cases like that.”
Fox’s Baier brought up concerns shared by many Americans, especially the elderly. “I think that most people, common sense-wise, would say, the fraud’s got to end. They’re concerned about the 94-year-old mother who skips a check or somehow doesn’t get what she’s supposed to get.”
Musk responded with clarity and conviction: “Right. And what we’re trying to say is actually that the 94-year-old grandmother is actually, as a result of DOGE’s work, going to get her check. She’s not going to be robbed by fraudsters like she’s getting robbed today.”
He didn’t stop there. Musk warned of the consequences if the mission fails. “And the solvency of the federal government will ensure that she continues to receive those Social Security checks, that Medicare continues to work, without which we’re all doomed. And the reason we’re doing this is because if we don’t do it, America is going to go insolvent. We’re going to go bankrupt. And nobody’s going to get anything.”
Then came the chilling bottom line: “Unless this exercise is successful, the ship of America will sink,” Musk told Baier. “That’s why we’re doing it.”
Behind the scenes, DOGE’s mission is being powered by a team of private-sector tech warriors. Aram Moghaddassi, a software engineer with DOGE, spoke about the changes coming to the Social Security Administration, which currently serves 68 million Americans.
“I’ll say the two improvements that we’re trying to make to Social Security are helping people that legitimately get benefits — protect them from fraud that they experience every day on a routine basis — and also make the experience better,” Moghaddassi said.
He revealed just how bad things have gotten. “When you want to change your bank account, you can call Social Security. We learned 40% of the phone calls that they get are from fraudsters” who are trying to steal payments.
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That was all Musk needed to chime in again: “In fact, what we’re doing will help their benefits. Legitimate people, as a result of the work of DOGE, will receive more Social Security, not less. I want to emphasize that, as a result of the work of DOGE, legitimate recipients of Social Security will receive more money, not less money.”
Meanwhile, Airbnb cofounder and fellow billionaire Joe Gebbia is working alongside Musk to modernize outdated government systems. One of their first targets? The retirement process for federal employees, which is so ancient it still runs on paper.
“It’s an injustice to civil servants who are subjected to these processes that are older than the age of half the people watching the show tonight,” Gebbia said.
He envisions a government system that actually works for its citizens. “We really believe that the government can have an Apple store-like experience — beautifully designed, great user experience, modern systems.”
Musk’s time in Washington may be short, but the impact could echo for generations. If his aggressive reforms hold, DOGE could mark a pivotal turning point in America’s battle against government waste and corruption. For now, the billionaire warrior isn’t backing down — and neither is the movement to restore common sense to the federal bureaucracy.
