The contradiction surfaced during a panel discussion when former Trump administration official Caroline Sunshine brought up El-Sayed’s past positions.
Sunshine said the Michigan Democrat “wants to defund the police.”
Phillip immediately disputed the characterization.
“I will say El-Sayed didn’t – does not support defunding the police,” she told the panel.
Sunshine refused to let the issue disappear, arguing that El-Sayed had previously supported the movement and was now attempting to distance himself from that record.
Phillip again defended him.
“He has said that he doesn’t support defunding the police.”
That was when former New York City Council Minority Leader Joe Borelli pointed out an inconvenient detail: CNN itself had reported otherwise.
“I also don’t mean to fact-check you, but CNN’s reporting is saying that he has called to defund the police, despite his own denials of doing so,” Borelli said.
The reference was particularly damaging because Borelli wasn’t citing Republican opposition research or a conservative publication.
He was pointing to a July 7 CNN KFile investigation.
Rather than conceding the discrepancy, Phillip changed the focus of the discussion.
“I think the question that I’m fundamentally asking is, by dredging up the sort of wedge issues of 2020, are you missing the point?” she said.
That response only made the exchange more remarkable.
CNN’s Own Investigation Documented El-Sayed’s Comments
The underlying reporting leaves little mystery about why Republicans are raising the issue.
CNN’s KFile investigation reported that El-Sayed had “repeatedly endorsed defunding the police” during the political upheaval of 2020, despite his current campaign denying that he had supported the movement.
And El-Sayed’s own words were difficult to misunderstand.
During a 2020 Detroit Public Radio interview, he said:
“I believe that we do need to defund the police insofar as defunding the police is disinvesting in the means of incarcerating someone or killing them on the streets.”
That statement is far more explicit than merely expressing sympathy with police reform.
El-Sayed literally used the words “we do need to defund the police.”
CNN also reported that social media posts connected to his support for the movement were deleted before his current Senate campaign.
El-Sayed later explained that the posts were removed because he “didn’t want them to be taken out of context.”
His campaign has since attempted to present a different picture of his position.
But Republicans now have something considerably stronger than an attack ad: El-Sayed’s own recorded comments combined with reporting from CNN.
El-Sayed’s Activist History Draws More Scrutiny
Questions surrounding El-Sayed’s position on policing extend beyond one interview.
The Washington Free Beacon reported that he previously served on the board of Michigan United and twice served as the organization’s president.
The conservative outlet has highlighted rhetoric associated with the organization comparing police officers to “slave catchers.”
Michigan United was also involved in organizing a May 2020 Detroit demonstration that later descended into clashes in which officers were attacked and police vehicles were damaged.
El-Sayed’s campaign argues his views have evolved since that period.
His campaign has said his perspective became “more nuanced” after working alongside law enforcement officials while serving in Wayne County.
Voters will ultimately decide how much that evolution matters.
El-Sayed has already secured the Democratic Senate nomination in Michigan and is expected to face Republican former Rep. Mike Rogers in November.
With control of the Senate potentially hanging on a handful of competitive states, Michigan could become one of the country’s most closely watched races.
That makes El-Sayed’s 2020 record considerably more than ancient political history.
Phillip’s Pivot May Have Made Things Worse
The most striking part of Wednesday’s exchange wasn’t simply that Phillip challenged Sunshine.
Anchors and panelists disagree about politicians’ records all the time.
What made this different was Borelli producing CNN’s own reporting as the rebuttal.
Phillip could have acknowledged that El-Sayed had previously made comments supporting defunding police while noting that he now rejects that characterization.
Instead, she questioned whether Republicans should be talking about the issue at all.
That is precisely the kind of moment that fuels longstanding conservative criticism of CNN.
The dispute isn’t merely over what Republicans claim El-Sayed believes.
There is a public record.
There are previous statements.
And CNN’s own investigative team examined them.
The political significance is also difficult to dismiss.
The “defund the police” movement became a major liability for Democrats following the unrest of 2020, particularly in competitive districts where Republicans successfully tied Democratic candidates to progressive criminal-justice policies.
El-Sayed now wants Michigan voters to judge him based on his current platform rather than some of his rhetoric from six years ago.
Republicans have every incentive to make sure voters remember both.
And after Wednesday night’s CNN exchange, they don’t have to rely exclusively on conservative media to make their case.
They can simply point voters toward CNN.
That may be the most uncomfortable fact of all for Abby Phillip.


