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Despite the cancellation, Sams emphasized that Harris is continuing to engage with various media outlets and is open to future opportunities. He mentioned that Harris had participated in numerous other interviews recently, showcasing her willingness to share her message with diverse audiences. “She’s happy to go into these places and share her message,” Sams said.
Before wrapping up the interview, Sams added a quip about another political figure making headlines with Rogan. “Donald Trump with Joe Rogan, that’s going to be an interesting thing to watch,” he remarked.
Indeed, former President Donald Trump’s appearance on “The Joe Rogan Experience” has proven to be one of the biggest media events of the political season. The interview, which aired last week, has amassed over 33 million views, making it a blockbuster hit for Rogan’s podcast and a major sensation for Trump’s campaign.
The nearly three-hour conversation covered a wide range of topics, but one particular moment stood out. During the interview, Trump recounted his experience visiting the White House’s iconic Lincoln Bedroom, a room steeped in history and personal significance for the 16th president, Abraham Lincoln.
“I said to the guys, ‘I want to see the Lincoln Bedroom,’ I had never seen the Lincoln Bedroom,” Trump told Rogan. “And I was standing with my wife and I said, ‘Do you believe it? This is the Lincoln Bedroom.’ I mean, it was cool – it was amazing.”
The former president reflected on the room’s history and the tragic story of Lincoln’s son, Tad, who died four years after his father was assassinated. Trump described the deep sadness he felt while standing in the room, noting that both Lincoln and his wife, Mary Todd, suffered from what was known at the time as “melancholia,” a term for depression.
“He lost his son, and they suffered — the two of them — suffered from melancholia,” Trump said. “They didn’t call it depression. They called it ‘melancholia.’”
Trump added that Lincoln’s sorrow over the loss of his son was deeply moving, especially when seeing a small picture of Tad in the bedroom. “Just seeing it … a little tiny picture of Tad, who he lost, and it was devastating,” Trump said.
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Tad Lincoln’s death at 18 was attributed to various causes, including tuberculosis, pneumonia, or congestive heart failure. The Lincolns had already lost two other sons, Edward and William, and only their eldest son, Robert Todd Lincoln, survived into adulthood, later serving as Secretary of War and U.S. Minister to the United Kingdom.
While Trump’s reflection on Lincoln’s personal tragedies captured attention, another part of the interview sent shockwaves through the audience. Rogan revealed that his decision to host Trump on the podcast came after an assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania, nearly claimed Trump’s life on July 13.
Rogan said, “No. Once they shot you I was like, ‘He’s gotta come in here.’” Trump even showed Rogan the scar left by the would-be assassin’s bullet. “It zicked right there,” Trump said, pointing to the mark behind his right ear.
Rogan responded, “It healed up pretty f–king good,” before comparing the scar to injuries often sustained by UFC fighters. Trump, ever the showman, used the opportunity to remind the audience of his resilience. “It’s not like some of the wrestlers, some of the UFC fighters… it was sort of like a top shot. The thing’s taken off a little bit,” Trump said, proudly displaying the healed wound.
The interview, which veered between moments of introspection and brash showmanship, was exactly the kind of media spectacle that Rogan’s podcast is known for. It also highlighted the sharp contrast between Trump’s media strategy and that of Vice President Harris. While Trump has embraced unconventional platforms like Rogan’s podcast to reach millions of potential voters, Harris’s decision to cancel her appearance raises questions about her campaign’s media approach in the final stretch of the election season.
In the world of politics, optics matter, and the contrast between Trump’s headline-grabbing interview and Harris’s canceled appearance could have a lasting impact as the campaign heats up.
